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3/31/2014 5:25 pm  #11


Re: Australian connections

Matthew Bagnall comments on "Theology For the Sanctified."

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So what exactly does all this say? Lemme know if any of you figure it out. No, seriously. I don't like super-special-secret-code-talk and I don't like nonsense. There's nothing worse than super-secrety nonsense.
No, I can't say I have ever abode in the thick cloud of His presence until time and sense seemed no more and I was suddenly endued with power.
 
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12/14/2014 7:48 pm  #12


Re: Australian connections

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Hillsong Exposed an open letter by David Sester                               
(Scripture and links edited out for clarity.)

This letter is written to the praise, honour, glory and dominion of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever and ever, world without end, for the elect's sake, that they may be warned of the severe error and sin that is associated with the Hillsong Church and community in Sydney, Australia and across the world. My first major interaction with Hillsong, was at the Hillsong conference last year in Sydney (June/July 2013) where Brian Houston linked with Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, and other prosperity preachers to draw 10's of thousands of professing Christians from across Australia together. Considering that the conference invited all denominations, including Catholics, Jehovah’s witnesses, Christadelphians, and everything else, a few Christian brothers and I were burdened by the Holy Spirit to evangelize outside the conference and especially witness to the youth. We had spent many hours praying and crying out for the people and youth at this conference and those involved with Hillsong, and so we took the long journey interstate from Adelaide for the mission.

For 3 days we stood outside the stadium in Sydney where the conference was taking place, where God opened an effectual door for us to use amplification while the multitudes went in and out of this conference. What we saw over the next few days exceeded our expectation of how corrupt, unbiblical, and grievous the conduct of those involved truly is. As we preached, we drew large crowds of professing Hillsong attendees, and many youth groups. As we preached scriptures such as 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, and Ephesians 5:3-7, where it is made clear that those practicing fornication, homosexuality, drunkenness, covetousness etc. will not inherit the Kingdom of God, they greatly withstood our words with liberal heresy, teaching that because of the imputed righteousness of Christ our conduct has no standing on where we stand with God. They also greatly withstood the biblical understanding of true and false conversion, affirming that all who confess Jesus as Lord and invite Him into their hearts are born again, regardless of whether or not they are set free from a lifestyle of wilful sin. In fact, they so greatly withstood our words and declaration of the Gospel, that they rioted against us, including chanting, throwing rocks and balls at us/our equipment, attempting to steal our equipment (almost successfully), yelled at us, and one man who was with us was even punched in the face so hard that he spat out blood (Peter Noble). A young man attending the conference stole the purse of a woman who stood with us, and as the thief ran away, one of the hillsong pastors told those in line to enter the conference to do a 'crowd wave' as the thief ran past them all. When I rebuked the pastor, he said in the presence of at least 2 of us (Damien James Gloury and myself) that he endorsed the behaviour because the man was “just a teenager”, utterly justifying the wickedness, which is behaviour condemnable to Hell...

We were also harassed by 2 Hillsong pastors who stood in front of us for almost the whole of the 3 days, often using a bullhorn in front of us to turn away people from listening. These 2 hillsong pastors threatened us with violence and swore at us, and were utterly hardened from any biblical reproof about their behaviour. During one of the nights that a riot against us was breaking out, a woman from the conference was given a bullhorn by one of the Hillsong pastors and began to publicly speak to us in tongues, while the crowd cheered her on. Not only was this pastor endorsing the shameful behaviour the woman usurping authority over a man, but also the public mockery that was being made of a gift of the Spirit.

As street preachers who have preached/witnessed the Gospel at numerous homosexual pride marches, an atheist convention, to crowds of Muslims, and faced riots on the street, we can testify that we have never faced such danger, violence and thievery as at the Hillsong Conference.

On the last night of the conference, we all witnessed the final call made by the preacher for anyone to become a Christian. There was no mention of genuine repentance, Godly sorrow over sin, conviction of the Holy Spirit, counting the cost of losing everything in this life, or the need to be made a new creature in Christ with a renewed mind, heart, and spirit, with power over sin. Instead they called on the people to raise their hands, and give their life to Jesus. Sadly, any converts that night would now likely be 2 fold the children of Hell as those youth pastors and supposed Christians that abused us.

Also, on the last night of the conference, after the preacher finished speaking, all these “Christians” walked outside the stadium to the sound of demonic secular music. This also included the vile, ungodly, pagan “Harlem Shake” in which hundreds of Hillsong attendees joined into dance sensually and chaotically. It reminded me much of the Hebrews dancing around the golden calf, to the 'god' they made up in their minds who tolerated their worldly conformity and sensuality. When I saw this, the Holy Spirit in me was utterly grieved and vexed, and I could not help but cry out “This is worldly! This is ungodly! This is not biblical Christianity! Come out from among them and be separate!” To which I only had the looks of shock, annoyance and disapproval from the sin-mad crowd that did not want to their works of darkness to be reproved by the light. Oh, how I wish they would repent and follow the Holy God of the Bible! I weep now as I write this, trembling in horror with the agony and grief of God's heart over a devil tainted representation of His Son on the earth! You can also find other videos of the Harlem Shake done by Hillsong by typing in “Harlem Shake Hillsong” on YouTube.

Another example of the corruption of the Hillsong Church comes from meeting a young man named Isaac Anderson, who was an attendee at a Hillsong Church. We first met him in mid-2014 while a group of us were preaching the glorious Gospel of Christ in the city of Sydney. At the time, he was living a life of fornication, drunkenness, occasional drug use, and pornography, amongst other sins. After listening to the preaching, and speaking with a particular brother, he became an awakened sinner and realized that he was abiding under the wrath of God. He told us that he originally began attending Hillsong in an attempt to get right with God because of his mounting conviction of sin. Instead of leading him into the narrow gate of genuine faith and repentance, the youth pastor tried to set him up on a date with a girl instead. By Isaacs’s confession, it was more of a social club than a church and full of worldliness and false conversions. The day after seeing us and becoming an awakened sinner, he went back to Hillsong, telling his youth pastor that he was unsaved, as evidenced by his life of rebellion, and wanted to get right with God. The youth pastor then tried to put his conscience back to sleep, pointed Isaac to his religious works (confession, baptism etc.) and confessed that even he himself struggled with pornography. This is surely the marks of a false prophet, and a move that is not under the headship of Christ. Praise to God, Isaac Anderson pushed through the lies of Hillsong, left the church, genuinely repented, genuinely was made a new creature in Christ, and hates the sexual immorality, worldliness and carnality that he once loved, and is involved in a Godly fellowship with accountable believers walking in the light!

At this point, you may be thinking, “Well, not everyone attending and all the youth pastors represent the heart of Hillsong.” To which I would reply, look at the pastors of Hillsong who established the Church in 1983 in Australia, Frank (father) and Brian (son) Houston. Frank Houston is known to have sexually abused and molested multiple children which is well documented, and publicly admitted on October 8, 2014 by Brian Houston to a Sydney hearing of the Royal Commission into institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. Brian Houston, the current head pastor, has yoked himself with Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, Steven Furtick, Rick Warren and other heretical, compromised, prosperity preachers who tickle people’s ears with feel good messages and leave out true Biblical conversion and preaching on true repentance. Brian lives a luxurious lifestyle, with 2 waterfront properties, and wrote a book called, “You Need More Money”, which is a mockery to the Shepherds heart of Jesus Christ, calling sinners to repentance and storing up treasures in Heaven. Does this sound like the Heavenly-minded Jesus Christ of the Bible, who rode to Jerusalem on a donkey, only to be crucified and hated by the world? Some of those attending Hillsong include the rich, famous and worldly, Justin Bieber, his manager- Scooter Braun, Jeremy Linn (NBA superstar), the actor Austin Butler, and more. Need I say more? Why are the rich, prosperous, and worldly flocking to this church, while the poor, needy and those hungering for righteousness are cast off and abused?  

“...the whole head is sick, and the whole heart is faint. From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.” (Isaiah 1:5-6).
[Note: this verse is quoted incomplete. Here's the entire verse - "Why will you still be struck down? Why will you continue to rebel? The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint."

On another note, it is reported by multiple witnesses that there is little to no accountability and true overseeing in the Holy Spirit in this church. The Church is packed with youth that could be, and likely are, living lives of wilful sin such as fornication, pornography, drunkenness etc. (as was Isaac Anderson, before becoming a true Christian) and no church discipline is being done, thus the whole lump is leavened, there are no walls of protection to guard the Church against inner corruption.

In light of such Biblical truth, I charge all who read this letter, under the command of the Lord Jesus Christ, to depart from fellowshipping with such works of darkness, and to come out from among them and be separate, touching not the unclean thing, that God may receive you (2 Corinthians 6:17), lest you perish with the leaven of our generations false Christianity and uncleanness. Be not deceived by the popularity, beautiful music, biblical lyrics, flashing lights, high emotions, tears of worshippers, and the deceitfulness of your own hearts feelings, for “he that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.” (Proverbs 28:26). The leaders in Hillsong are “false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” 


From a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ,

David Sester

Also on behalf of brothers Damien Glory and Matthew Bagnall

 

12/14/2014 11:38 pm  #13


Re: Australian connections

Isaac Anderson. Now a "True Christian" at the Alto sawmill. 
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Good to see Randall Valdez has hearing protection on, but what about the new guy?! He's running a chainsaw. He also needs a good pair of leather gloves. And put some pants on. Somebody teach that boy how to hold a saw. I hope they have the sawmill's Workman's Comp program dialed in - they're gonna need it.  

Randall was the properly registered gold buyer for Charity Enterprises, Inc. Is he also a certified fork-lift operator? I hope they've got all the licensing and certifications for that sawmill. It is a commercial operation, after all. It's not a family farm.

 

12/18/2014 5:50 pm  #14


Re: Australian connections

Here is a powerful, Hell shaking testimony of my newly saved and beloved brother, Isaac Anderson. I would encourage all, whether saved, backslidden or unsaved to read this account of Christs saving power, to turn a man from a self-willed rebel against God, to a new man with a Christ enthroned and empowered heart to do His will. Praise God that through His Salvation, we can have forgiveness of all past sin, Christ's imputed righteousness, and a walking out of the works of Christ BY HIS INDWELLING SPIRIT.

Isaac Daniel Anderson2/July/1992 - August/2014

I was born into a confessing Christian family, and my parents, brothers and sister loved me dearly. We were part of a Baptist church when I was growing up and that is where I learned in Sunday school about Jesus as a young boy. (2 Timothy 3:5)

I grew up believing that I was saved and that when I died I would go to heaven because that was all I had ever been told. I fell deeper and deeper into sin as my teenage years began, I would do my best to do what I thought was right but I would constantly be falling back into sin. (Proverbs 26:11)

At the age of 17 I was a very proud young man being very confident in my own ability, I had been esteemed by men for being talented at playing rugby league and boxing. One night I was purusing a girl who had invited me to a party, I was drinking and socializing while hoping to get to know her better. It didn't take long due to people becoming drunk and taking drugs that a friend of mine was about to get into a fight, I stuck up for him and ended up being beaten by 3 men nearly to death. The next day I woke up with stitches in my leg from a knife wound and the doctors told me that I was lucky to have no facial fractures. My eyes were totally red with bruising and my face was swollen to the point where it was hard to open my eyes. I will never forget the look on my father’s face when he came home and saw me in the state I was in. He had asked me that night if I was going to be drinking and I had lied. I had let him down and had been utterly humiliated. I believe God allowed this to happen to humble me, who knows what would have happened to me if this hadn't happened because God rejects the proud but gives unmerited favour to the humble. (Matthew 23:12) (Proverbs 26:17) (Matthew 10:28)

A year later through seeing the advertisements on Television I decided to join the Australian Regular Army as a Combat Engineer. I enlisted into the Army on the 7th of March 2011 at the age of 18 and set out to accomplish my dreams to go to war and serve my country. (Mark 8:35) (Matthew 10:38)

During basic training I met a Military Chaplain who I believed at the time was a born again Christian and through his teachings, he encouraged me to get baptized. The day of my baptism, he told me to pray a prayer, but it was all just from the mouth, not from the heart. It was a false conversion to Christianity. I didn't have power over sin or the characteristics the Bible teaches a Christian will have. I didn't know anything about Gods holiness or righteous judgment and did not have a righteous fear of God at all. (Matthew 7:17) (Matthew 15:8)

After completing Basic training I fell back into all my old habits of drinking, lust and sexual immorality. I began to search for a church to be a part of and started attending Hillsong Church. The church was full of young people who were all immaculately dressed with the latest fashions. The majority of those attending and even some of the leaders in the church were just as worldly and sinful as I was if not more. The music and church atmosphere was always that of a rock concert and all the sermons/teachings were always on the love and forgiveness of Jesus as well as if you put money in the bucket God will make you rich. The Preachers wouldn't often fellowship with the congregation after the sermons and all the people ever talked about after church were worldly things.
They allowed females to preach and teach to men the ways of God and most of them were immodestly dressed. (1 Timothy 2:12) (1 Timothy 2:9)

During my time at Hillsong, I was deceived and began to believe in a false Christ and not the righteous and holy Jesus the Bible speaks of, (Matthew 24:5) instead I was presented with a Jesus that was always light on sin who only ever has good and kind thoughts towards those who do evil. 
(1 John 2:15-17) (Malachi 2:17)

At the end of my Initial Employment Training I was posted up to Darwin and arrived there in September 2011. They were incredible lonely times in Darwin being 3,600 kilometres away from my friends and family. At this point of time, I was 100% living for myself and the only things I had time for was my career in the army, spending many hours in the gym and fulfilling all the other lusts of my flesh. I was utterly consumed with pride and vanity. I tried to attend a church occasionally but in the end I stopped going all together for God was in none of my thoughts and I got deeper and deeper into sin. (Romans 2:8) (Romans 7:24-25) (Isaiah 59:10)

Although I missed out on being deployed to Afghanistan, I had an application to be transferred to Sydney to be a part of a Special Operations Regiment and it was approved. So I moved to Sydney on the 8th of January 2014 and resumed going to the Hillsong Church. On my arrival to the church I was in a terrible state spiritually and drowning in sin. Seeing I had been told by so many I was already saved, my intentions were to get involved with the church and get my life right with God, yet on the first day that I attended the church, a youth leader began trying to set me up on a date with a young lady in the church, which distracted me from seeking after God and drew me away from Him. Everyone there treated me as if I was a saved man when I was far from it. During this time I continued to spiral down deeper and deeper into sin and by this stage I was taking drugs occasionally such as cocaine, ecstasy and I was also familiar with steroid use. (1 Corinthians 6:8-10)

I ended up coming to a realization that enough was enough and that I needed to stop drinking, taking drugs, sleeping with girls and watching pornography. I was indeed a slave to these sins and had no power over them. (Matthew 5:28)

One Saturday morning (16th August 2014) I decided I would go into the city of Sydney to do some shopping. I was casually walking around the city going about my business when I began to hear this yelling. As I drew closer I recognized it to be a Christian man street preaching. I stood and listened. Never before had I heard a Christian man preach so seriously with such boldness and authority. He was preaching against the sins of this nation such as abortion and homosexuality and was calling all men to repent. He was also preaching against the many people in this nation who claim to be Christian but are not, for they have not fully surrendered their lives to Jesus Christ and therefore they have not been raised to a new victorious life over sin, by the resurrection power of Holy Spirit.

When the man finished preaching I walked over to ask him if he would like a bottle of water, he immediately began preaching to me about the parable of the Samaritan woman, and finished by asking me, "Do you have this living water?" I replied "no, not the way that you speak of it". It was at this point that I knew I was not a Christian at all, and if I was to die I would have surely gone to hell. This day, God had truly humbled me and opened my eyes to see that I was a wicked man and that I wasn't saved at all. The man then started quoting scriptures telling me how to find salvation in a way that I had never heard before. (Matthew 10:27)

I left the man in fear not wanting to waste another minute of my life being an unsaved man. As I took the train home I was continuously praying asking God to forgive me for my sins and my hypocritical life. When I got off the train I drove my car to a quiet street and just broke down weeping, repenting of my sins. (John4:13-14) (Romans 10:17) (Philippians 2:12)

The next day I went to Church and told the young adults pastor how I knew that I wasn't saved, and he immediately tried to reassure me that I was saved by telling me about how he was involved in some of the same sins I had been committing. I usually would have listened to him, but now for the first time in my life my eyes were wide open to my false Christianity and I knew without a doubt, that I was not a Christian and what this Hillsong young adult’s pastor was now saying to me was not true and not of God. I was filled with fear knowing Gods judgment was against me. 
(Matthew 7:15-20) (Titus 1:16)

The following day, I got in contact with the man who was preaching in the city through a phone number that was on the back of a gospel track he had handed me. We agreed to meet that afternoon so I could learn more of how God saves a man. He lived an hour and a half away from me but I just had a burning desire in my heart to meet with him to learn more of how to find this living water that makes a man never thirst again, which is spoken of in the Bible. The first night I met with him he showed me in the Bible that a man must be born again of The Spirit of God. He also showed me in the scriptures how it is by Gods grace and not by works that a man is born again.

The next day during my time at work after only having a few hours sleep I didn't have any peace about my soul knowing I was an enemy of God by living as an unsaved man.
I began reading the Bible every chance I had, reading most of the book of Matthew, writing down versus that I thought really spoke out to me. I ended up almost writing out word for word the whole chapter. That afternoon I returned to the street preacher’s house to learn more of what was creating this distance between me and God, and I learned that it was my sin that was creating this distance.

During my time with the preacher, I learned of Gods holiness, Gods perfection and His righteous judgements. I also learned of the dreadful wrath and condemnation that is currently abiding upon all who do not love and obey him. (John 14:15) (Romans 1:18) (Romans 2:5) (Romans 13:4) (Ephesians 5:6)

I was to see how God love is so powerful that there is the equal and opposite reaction which is his wrath, for example because God loves Children He hates abortion, because God loves marriage He hates homosexuality and divorce, because God loves what is good, holy and pure, He hates that which is evil, unrighteous and ungodly. With everything I was taught and read in the Bible I became more and more regretful and repentant of my sinful and ungodly life and more and more longing after God’s forgiveness and mercy. I stayed up until the early morning discussing and learning about these things, and we began to talk about what was hindering my life being fully surrendered to serving Christ and how one of these things was my career in the military. I knew in my heart I could no longer be a part of the army and allow it to hinder my ability to serve God, I wanted to no longer be a soldier in the Australian Army for I now wanted to be a soldier in Jesus Christs Army.

The street Preacher told me of a Christian man who he had met whilst on a mission trip in America who had been a Navy SEAL and who had been through what I was about to go through, as a man who had heard Gods calling to put the military behind him and serve God and nothing else. He arranged for the man to get in contact with me and he did through a Skype meeting. This man told me of the immense persecution and mocking that he had to face when he was discharged for all the same reasons I was about to be. It was encouraging to meet and talk to someone who had already been through what I had ahead of me and I was strengthened for it.

I arrived at work early the next morning and straight away reported to my superior officer telling him how I could no longer fly out of the country that night and how I could no longer serve in the Australian Army because I wanted to be able to serve God without any hindrance. He asked me if I was pulling a prank but when he saw the sincerity on my face he looked concerned and organized for me to go and speak with the Military Chaplain. So the Chaplain came and picked me up in his car and drove me to a quiet segregated room so we could sit down to discuss my intentions. He began with asking me all kinds of questions about my family and weather I was intending to harm myself or anyone else, as we continued talking I realized that this man was just a false Christian like I had been all my life and had no zeal for God at all. After listening to him, I found myself preaching to him and rebuking him for being spiritually dead and blind. I was totally shocked at how an unsaved man such as this man could be in a position of an Army Christian Chaplain, which is a role where he is called to be a support to soldiers that are going through rough times in their lives and yet this man wasn't even saved himself.

After pleading with him for some time, I suggested to him to meet up with me again later so we could go over some of the scriptures again in the hope that he might see what I now knew Jesus commanded to all of His disciples. (Matthew 16:24-25) (Luke 14:33) (Matthew10:37-38) (Luke 4:8) (Luke 16:13) (Hebrews 12:28)

We finish up our conversation and I then left that meeting only to get dragged into another interrogation from a different Superior Officer. He asked me why I was doing this, accusing me of simply not wanting to go on my Army training exercise overseas, as if to say that I was making everything up. I told him how I no longer wanted to serve in the military but to serve God alone. He called me all sorts of hateful and mocking names and ended by telling me I was lazy and that I was being a pathetic soldier. He told me how I was going overseas and didn't have any say over the matter and threatened me by saying that if I refused to go I would be legally charged and prosecuted.

Throughout the day some of my work mates and superiors came to me questioning what I was doing, trying to convince me otherwise by telling me how I should just go on the trip. But very sadly they didn't understand that I had never been so sure and convinced that this was the right thing to do in the eyes of God and I didn't care what it looked like in the eyes of man or how foolish it might have seemed.

My next timing was to report for orders at 17:30; at around 16:30 I was pulled aside by a work mate who I used to look up to, he started rebuking me about my decision to withdraw myself from the training exercise overseas and for my wanting to be discharged from the Army. The Chaplin and another Superior Officer over heard our conversation and came and joined in with trying to persuade me into doing what I was told. But I had no intentions to bowing the knee to what they wanted, I only wanted to serve my Lord Jesus Christ and was willing to pay the consequences of doing so, they could have throw me in Jail for all I was concerned. God had shown me and convicted my conscience and it was time to break off the yoke the army had on my life and to surrender my life to serving Him alone. My superior Officer finished the conversation with "Sapper ANDERSON you know where you need to be in 10 minutes", "yes sir" I replied and walked into the coffee room and just sat down reading my Bible. Just after sitting down my work colleague entered the room and whispered "they’re not going to send you overseas, you just have to make that timing and be where you need to be". I thought it was a trap, and returned to my locker to pray about what I was to do, when I finished praying I felt a peace about just going to where they asked me to go and that they wouldn't send me. I quickly got dressed and walked over to where I had to be for orders just making it in time, as I arrived the boss was waiting for me and as I arrived he pulled me aside and informed me he was concerned for my mental well-being and withdrew me from the exercise and he wanted me to come and see him first thing in the morning to discuss my discharge out of the Army. I was overwhelmed with happiness and praising God for delivering me from going overseas.

The next morning I was brought into the boss’s office and we discussed the terms of my discharge and what I was willing to do up until that date. I informed him how I just wanted to pray and read my Bible until the day they would release me from the Army and I would refuse to take part in their training or maintenance requirements to aid this ungodly army. He was extremely frustrated and mocked me for taking my faith so seriously.

I believe God chose to save me at a very difficult time so that I would learn to depend and trust him and him alone through anything that may come my way in life. The change that had accrued in me was far greater than skin deep I had been given new desires and a new heart, I no longer wanted to live for pleasure and be involved in all kinds of wicked behaviour, I wanted to live moment by moment walking with and serving my Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Another significant thing that had been interfering with me coming to know Christ was a young woman who had been my girlfriend for two years while I was in Darwin, we had broken up before I moved to Sydney but we had stayed in contact and we were about to get back into a relationship. After being convicted deeply of this sin, I informed her politely that we could no longer stay in contact with her, for God tells us in the Bible that fornication is evil and I told her about how I must save myself. Lord willing, to marry a Christian woman one day in the future.

By Gods grace I was given the power to be able to walk away from my old life and the actions I was taking, were a direct reflection of what was happening on the inside of my heart. I was burdened to throw out all my worldly music and clothes and also gave away much of my possessions to those in need.

When I arrived at work I refused to even put on a uniform. I ended up getting charged with 4 days of restriction of privileges, having to sleep at work and march around the parade ground several times a day and do the jobs no one else wanted to do. This was a very light charge considering I was looking at, at least 2 weeks Jail. Through all these things the Lord was with me comforting and strengthened me to go on and break free from my old self.

As I informed and updated my parents with what was happening in my life they started becoming more and more concerned, wondering why all I wanted to talk about was God and wondering where the old Isaac was because the change that had taken place in my life was so significant. They were upset that I was not going to move up to live with them at the Gold Coast and was going to move down south to be a part of the church that the street preacher was a part of. One day I started questioning their salvation because I sensed they did not have the zeal for God that I had, and they were so mad that they hastily flew down to Sydney to visit me. I asked Matthew, the street preacher if he would come up to my house to meet my parents, and he said yes.

That night I picked up my parents from the train station and when I arrived home the street preacher and another Christian man (David), whom I had met through him where already at my house witnessing to one of my house mates. When my father entered the living room he stormed down the hall way, into the kitchen where everyone was situated, demanding who was the preacher? Matthew introduced himself and just after meeting him my father open handed slapped Matthew in the face. It shocked everyone in the room; my father’s behaviour was that of a man who hated God. My father raged against the light of God’s word and grew more and more aggressive in his language and many times lost all control of himself, to the point where the things he was saying were not even making sense and my mother quietly sat there condoning his behaviour. I was so embarrassed and disappointed in how my father was conducting himself showing no humility and trying to justify his wicked behaviour and outward sin.

Before long my father was so mad he ended up grabbing my Christian friend by the scruff of his jacket and dragging him outside threatening to punch him, I ended up having to get in between them fearing for my friend’s safety who had conducted himself peacefully with all loving kindness the whole time. Eventually I had to physically grab my father and put him inside the house. As I grabbed my father to physically push him inside the house. my father yelled aloud to the street preacher, "See, Isaac hasn't changed, this is the Isaac I like".

I was utterly humiliated by my father’s behaviour; I had never seen him act this way ever before. I was also shocked that my father preferred me as a false Christian and only someone who would confess with my mouth that I knew him but I was far from him in my heart. The way my father acted just confirmed my fear for his spiritual state; I don't believe my father is a saved man. That night after the confrontation I just had to get alone and pray. I forgave my father for acting the way he did, but I was very seriously concerned for his soul and plead with him in love as I warned him of his current unsaved state.

During the following week I continued having Bible studies and praying, submitting my life to know God so that I could do his will and not my own. As time went on the Lord showed me things of no value that I had been filling my life with which were creating distance between me and God and gave me strength to turn away from them.

Through these times I can’t put an hour or day on when I actually became saved, but I do know that I can relate my testimony to a story in the Bible of a man named Naaman. 
Naaman was a soldier who knew he had leprosy that was destroying him and one day would kill him - I knew I had sin in my life that would send me to HELL. Naaman was given grace from God and was told by a servant of God that all he had to do was humble himself and obey the command from The Lord to go and wash in a river seven times, and by faith he would be washed clean and healed. God showed me that it was my sin that was keeping me from knowing Him and walking with Him intimately and by Gods grace, through faith in Christ Jesus, I obeyed His call to turn from these sins and in doing so, The Lord washed me clean and gave me the power to break free from the spiritual yoke of the devil and this wicked world that we are all born into.
Praise God, for by His grace, I have been washed clean!!
Through the sacrificial blood of Christ Jesus, my Saviour, I have been washed clean.All of my sinful past is gone and He is my future, Praise be to His Holy Name!!I love the Lord my God with all my heart and wish only to serve and obey him all the days of my life.

I have utterly died to my old sinful self and have in love for Him, taken up my cross and am now following Him alone. I have been purged from all wilful sin and am a new creation. If any man follows Christ, he is a new creature: old things have passed away; behold, all things become new. (2 Kings 5) (John 1:12-13) (John 3:3) (Romans 9:11) 
(1Corinthians 6:14) (2 Corinthians 5:17) (Galatians 6:15) (Ephesians 4:24) (Colossians 3:10)
(1 John 2:29) (1 John 5:4) (1 John 5:18) (Revelation 1:18) (Revelation 21:5)

For once in my life, I now know a fraction of the Love, Holiness, Perfection and Power of the God of the Universe. Jesus Christ is my Saviour, for He saved a man who was as wicked and vile as I was. 1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am Chief.

DO NOT BE DECEIVED!

Lukewarm Christianity cannot save you! Saying the sinner’s prayer cannot save you! Being baptized by water cannot save you! Knowing Jesus exists cannot save you! Being a good person in the eyes of men cannot save you! You have to surrender all of your life to God and die to yourself before you can be born again with Christ living within you. This isn't something you can earn through good deeds; it is by Gods grace alone that men are granted the supernatural saving faith in Jesus Christ which delivers them from the powers of sin, satan, death and hell, and it is by Gods grace alone that this supernatural, sin defeating, holy enduring faith is what saves a man.

Do not think that because you can quote the bible verse in Romans 10:9 means that you believe that you have been born again and are now saved.
Romans 10:9 
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For as I was, many confessing Christians profess to believe but by their works, by their lives they reveal that they do not.

2 Timothy 3:1-5
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:20

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

To BELIEVE means to have absolute confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so.
"Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully"
If you truly believe in Jesus, you will live out your life according to the word of God in the Holy Bible. You will not be a hearer of the word only, but a doer.

Matthew 7:16-20 
You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Galatians 5:19-23
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. The Christian life isn't one of lots of money and possessions being esteemed in the eyes of men and living a life whereby you desire to be liked by everyone. It’s a life of righteousness, holiness and sacrificial love, whereby through walking with and in Christ Jesus, you will bear His holy light in this world of darkness and due to His holy presence with and in you, you will be hated by most.
John 7:7
The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
John 15:18-19
If the world hates you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
Luke 6:22
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
Romans 8:16-18
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
2 Thessalonians 1:5
which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer:
2 Timothy 3:12
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Philippians 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
2 Timothy 2:12

if we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

It's not take up your Dreams, take up your worldly Lusts, take up your Pride, take up your Selfishness, it's take up your cross. This is a calling for us to be crucified alongside Jesus, living as Christ lived partaking in His sufferings for His holy Names sake.
For it is better, if the will of God be so, that you suffer for doing Good, than for doing Evil.

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Matthew 16:25 

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

The Gospel call of God to all men, is a command for us to die to ourselves, die to our pride, die to our visions and dreams, die to our will and desires, so that through this humble death to ourselves, God would give us grace to have faith in His ability to raise us up to walk in and with Christ Jesus, as obedient sons, submissive vessels fit for His good use.
Then, having been born again of His Spirit, we would then daily live for His desires, His plans, His ways, for the building of His kingdom alone and walk as new creations of His Spirit, being washed clean in His blood from all sin.

Galatians 2:20
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Romans 6:1-13
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Colossians 2:6-15
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify (put to death) the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Colossians 3:1-10
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 Mortify (put to death) therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 for which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 in the which you also walked some time, when you lived in them. 8 But now you also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

We cannot keep parts of our old life and still follow Jesus, which is like a man who has a shower only to put dirty clothes back on, even though that man has had a shower he still won’t be presentable. It’s a continuous death that occurs, dying each day, each moment, being sensitive to the leading and working of The Holy Spirit that we would walk out our calling from God with fear and trembling, and that by abiding in Him, we may be found faultless before His throne on the day where Christ shall judge the world in righteousness according to every mans works.

Matthew 16:27 

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Why would you spend your life to serve and obey sin, riches, women and popularity on earth for 80 or 90 years to only be cast into hell for all Eternity?

Matthew 16:26 
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
1 Timothy 6:10
“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
Colossians 3:5
“Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.”
Judgement Day is coming. Seek The Lord while he may be found. If you seek the LORD your God, with all of your heart and soul you will find Him.
John15:18, 19

"If the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love his own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."

If the world loves you, you’re doing something wrong.

May God grant you all ears to hear, eyes to see and hearts that love and follow Him alone.
Love from a servant, friend and adopted son of God.
For the Glory of Jesus Christ, my Saviour, Lord and King

Isaac Anderson

 

12/30/2014 5:53 pm  #15


Re: Australian connections

Isaac will be bringing his buddy Boris along for the ride...

Give these guys some real safety gear if you plan to employ them in a sawmill. It looks like this:

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2/09/2015 2:58 pm  #16


Re: Australian connections

The Australian contingent is taking on a bigger role these days. Let's check in.

• Matthew Bagnall and Damien Gloury completed their American Church of Wells hiatus and went home. Boy, they were busy! They helped the group stave off angry local citizens and close down the R&R Mercantile, transitioning the sawmill to the new Alto property and helping with construction of the group's church building. 
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• We lost track of Kevin Fessler, the Church of Wells plant to Australia. Question: How does Fessler get in trouble with police and still get to stay in Australia?
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• New recruit Isaac Anderson is still with the Sawmill Brothers in Texas, as far as we know. Hope he made any required court appearances back in Australia. If he skips out, that might be something he regrets. [Note to the Texan and Australian "elders": please teach your young protégé to be respectful of law of the land in every country. It's just better that way.]
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• American ex-pat David Fester (Hawaii) is back in Australia. Now there's an interesting guy. One wonders what passport he travels under?

• Church of Wells elder Jacob Gardner is in Australia now. Jake has forged new bonds - the Slavic Pentecostal Church. A wide-spread group with "church plantings" all over the world. Well-established in the United States and Canada. A vague undefined family relationship with Paul Melnichuk and his Prayer Palace in Toronto. Charged with alleged sexual abuse in January.
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Wow, that's a lotta airline tickets. It doesn't add up. Economy airline tickets average about $2,000 US. That's at least about $50,000 in travel expenses, no matter how frugal one is. Plus the necessary credit cards and available balances. That's not taking into consideration any in-country domestic travel. The CoW leaders routinely foray across the U.S. Explains why they couldn't afford to keep the R&R Mercantile running, doesn't it. How could they pay their vendors? 
 

 

2/09/2015 5:15 pm  #17


Re: Australian connections

Let's talk about the relationship with David Sester, for a sec.

David Sester is from "The Family." Known by a long list of other names -- "Children of God," "Family of Love," and its most current versions - "The Family International" (TFI) "Activated Ministries," and "Aurora Productions" -- to just name a few. His father is an active member. David and his siblings were raised in the The Family, characterized by children being raised by other members in large group homes, moved around from one location to another and to other countries, at a moment's notice. This is the same cult that actor River Phoenix and his brothers came out of. David is what's known as an 'SGA', a Second-Generation Adult.

Posted on a YouTube "Kiddie Viddie" (produced by The Family):
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Posted on a "Children of God" HBO documentary:
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All of the children are harmed, but the impact on the girls is frightening and tragic. These are David's sisters. The two of them have a website they use for 'witnessing' for Jesus. 
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They sell unusual t-shirts. This represents MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
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The girls got into a little trouble in Vegas.

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They were just kids. They didn't have any control over their circumstances or what they were taught. And they don't now.
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