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8/15/2014 4:54 pm  #11

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

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8/15/2014 5:05 pm  #12

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

Kjdean49 wrote:

Waiting anxiously for more comments...

There is some interesting discussion on Moses' wall. He asks for it by what he posts! The one I find most interesting is under the post Unconditional New Covenant. A responder comments:
"Dear Moses, it is DEFECTIVE HERMENEUTICS and a MISAPPLICATION OF SCRIPTURE to attempt to apply to the church those prophetic passages which clearly refer to national or ethnic Israel at the return of the Lord Jesus Christ, at which time God the Son shall destroy Israel's enemies, and God the Holy Spirit will give NATIONAL ISRAEL repentance as they behold the Crucified One, their own Messiah whom they pierced so long ago."
This is what COW repeatedly does. That is why they think THEY are the remnant and not the Jews as it is indicated in scripture! 



8/15/2014 8:52 pm  #13

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

Comments are heating up over on Mr. Hankins article. And, of course, Moses David is defending the group. He justifies everything they do.


8/16/2014 3:03 pm  #14

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

Feel free to start open threads as appropriate. Follow this conversation at Yard Sale!


9/20/2014 9:38 pm  #15

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

The latest piece of wisdom from the Texas Boys:

"Lord Jesus, I am weary in Thy work, but not of it. If I have not yet finished my course, let me go and speak for Thee once more in the field, seal Thy truth, and come home to die"
-George Whitefield

What does that mean? Where does that quote come from? Is it supposed to be some kind of inspiring profound utteration about the trials and trevails and great suffering of Church of Wells?
Does Ryan have asthma? Inhalers work great!
From Memoirs of the life of the Reverend George Whitefield, By John Gillies. New-Haven. 1812.

Reverend Whitefield was tired. He believed he had a cold. He thought a couple of days rest from riding would straighten him out. It sounds like he had asthma; he says so himself. He apparently felt quite ill and couldn't breathe. He didn't ask for a faith-healer. Didn't ask anyone to lay on hands and pray over him. They called for a doctor, who treated him. Probably died of pneumonia. Nothing devilish. Nothing weird. No angels. An ordinary account of a real human. Not a God. 

It is  weird to make this ordinary writing from a memoir hold spiritual significance. To be some kind of magical words with scriptural gravitas.

Also, it's a misquote. Again. If you're gonna quote, get it right.

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1/16/2015 7:01 pm  #16

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

"Recently added" - Church of Wells website

NEW Part 2 to the Sermon Series by Sean Morris, "The Baptism of the Spirit - Be Filled With The Spirit"
Sean Morris:

The content of the sermon entitled, "The Baptism of the Spirit - what is it?", is noted below for a closer study. To condescend to those who are in our local congregation who have little knowledge of the subject, the first 15 minutes (approximately) served as a general introduction. After the general introduction is addressed, the content below is held in focus unto the end. May God grant you all ears to hear and eyes to see...

The Principle in Focus:
The Ceremonies of Salvation needed to be completed in Heaven like as they were shadowed in Old Testament law; thus Christ needed to ascend into Heaven. Upon His ascension the ceremonies began. Upon His enthronement the ceremonies were completed. Thus the Baptism of the Spirit is the signal to all people that the heavenly ceremonies have been accepted by God the Father and completed by God the Son - Christ sat down as King of the world at the right hand of God the Father! Thereby New Testament Salvation did begin.

That's lovely - he is kind enough to "condescend" to those who have little knowledge of the subject. Too bad he can't explain anything. Impossible to understand. I can't believe his "flock" REALLY actually understands either. I'm not buying it.I don't see how they could. They are all pretending. Afraid to admit they don't get it. Afraid to disagree. Playing church with Sean.

Lots of stuff about the garments of Zion.  More George Whitehead?


1/20/2015 9:58 pm  #17

Re: "Lordship Salvation" movement, Charles Spurgeon

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