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8/21/2014 10:04 pm  #1

Authority of the "elders"

This group claims to be prophets and endowed with "spiritual authority" from God. They can prophesize and heal the sick. They speak directly with God and know that they are special.

"God Himself has set them up as His servants..."
Steven and Mandy McRae, from "Beauty of Holiness website." A couple of Canadians who consider themselves to be Aquila and Priscilla reborn (first-century missionaries).

"...the veracity of the burden with which I speak, the authority which the LORD has granted our elders, and the favour of God upon us."
Meaning, Preethi speaks the truth; Sean Morris, Ryan Ringnald and Jake Gardner have spiritual authority granted by God and the group has God's favour. Love the British spelling.

"I had no experience either with a certain great measure of anointing that the elders of the Church of Wells had..."
The three "elders" are anointed by God.

"...for they are anointed of the LORD, are men of Truth who seek the glory of the LORD." 
Again, God has "anointed" them.

Speaking of her father, Moses David: "father, though a zealous man of God and prophet, was not anointed for eldership."
He's a prophet, but not qualified to be an Elder? This lends a bit of understanding. That would put Sean Morris over Moses David, instead of the other way around. It's sort of starting to come clear.

Moses David (Preethi's father): "The church elders say that they have no issue with the true church of God. They why did so and so die (forever, to be cast into the lake of fire)?” We have the elders of the Church of Wells righteously judge the spiritual health of people, and every one has so much of a problem with their righteous judgment! Why is that?"
What this means is unclear. Except for this part - "...the elders of the Church of Wells righteously judge the spiritual health of people..." Moses David endorses this group as being able to deliver righteous judgement about spirituality.

"We need a man who has been taken down to the third hell – a man who has ascended up the burning mount! How could the Ninevites resist such irresistible preaching from a man who came fresh from hell (see, Jon. 2:2)? I believe God's found a man."
Jake Gardner referring to Sean Morris.

   ► How are they "anointed"?
   ► How do these men have "spiritual authority?"
   ► What is that authority? What does that mean in practical terms?


Last edited by Tom (8/21/2014 11:33 pm)


8/22/2014 3:34 pm  #2

Re: Authority of the "elders"

Who approved their spiritual health? Their salvation?


8/22/2014 3:46 pm  #3

Re: Authority of the "elders"

Moses David appears to think God did?

Moses refers to bible verses 1 Peter 2:9-10.

But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God…

Followed by Matthew 28:17.

And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

That would make sense, trying to resurrect the baby.


8/22/2014 3:52 pm  #4

Re: Authority of the "elders"

God can only approve their salvations? Approval for anyone else needs to go thru Sean, Jake and Ryan?


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