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9/18/2013 11:17 pm  #21


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

There were comments yesterday. Deleted. You didn't need an email address. I'm very sure they're tracking ISPs, but who cares?

 

9/18/2013 11:31 pm  #22


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Threatenings and risiduating http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

 

9/18/2013 11:42 pm  #23


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Oh, those slanders will get you every time...

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! and through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.
 

 

9/19/2013 12:59 pm  #24


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Im confused by Ryan's latest blog.. are we supposed to feel our church is wrong after having listened to their rants of memorized rebuttal that is repeated over and over?  or is it supposed to justify catherine for wanting to leave her previous church?  i didn't really 'get' it....

 

9/24/2013 7:20 pm  #25


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Check out all of their latest blogs. It looks like they are keeping busy in the blog-writing factory attempting some image repair. Too bad we can see right through it with our magical goggles of Truth, Reason, and Common Sense. (I bought my pair at LensCrafters.)

It's all just your run-of-the-mill "this is what some Scottish reformer says" and "hey, Jesus' condemnation is LOVE! I swearz it!"

Go check it out, and let the deconstructing begin.

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9/24/2013 8:27 pm  #26


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Aegonis3 wrote:

It's all just your run-of-the-mill "this is what some Scottish reformer says" and "hey, Jesus' condemnation is LOVE! I swearz it!"

I'm just so confused about their confusion.

Jesus Christ's preaching was rarely, if ever, preceded by verbal pleas of "I love you", nor was it followed with such statements that this world holds to be the foremost proof of love.

 
How does he know?

He exposed sin, condemned hypocrisy, opposed the leaders of His day, cleansed the Temple, gave warnings, preached on hell more than heaven, and was in danger of death on many fronts because of His sin-exposing preaching - this is Biblical Judgment.

According to Paul? Or which writer, exactly? 
 

Everything Christ did verily is LOVE, but it was not what this world or carnal Christianity deems as love. 

How does he know? Who said? Apostle Paul or a Scottish preacher?

My reader, when reading a text which is on this website, please stop and pause when you see a verse quoted or cited.
Consider the scripture carefully – its force, its wording, its offensiveness, and how unashamedly it was delivered by God-incarnate.
 

What is this guy's deal? Seriously. Why are there people running around this planet right now, convinced that the teachings of Jesus Christ were hard and mean-spirited and offensive, and convincing others as well? Who started this in the first place? Oh wait, that's right, some Puritans. Who came to the New World because they pissed off everybody in Europe, and then perpetrated this garbage for the next 200 years. They weren't "persecuted" - they were a crazy cult!

Please keep in mind that Christ was criminalized and hated BECAUSE He loved men, but they HATED His love.

Please keep in mind that there are millions of people who believe otherwise.
Please keep in mind that these kinds of statements and rhetoric are unfair, inappropriate and untruthful, presented in an over-generalized form of sentence structure. "...they HATED his love" is a babyish, immature ignorant uneducated sentence. Who? Everybody? According to whom? Who told you that, and how did they know?
Please keep in mind that there are very good treatment programs and pharmacueticals available for this kind of frank paranoia and group hysteria. You don't have to suffer.



 

 

9/24/2013 9:34 pm  #27


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

Sean's writings still read like a high school term paper.

 

9/25/2013 2:47 pm  #28


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

OMG! First they had the John Howie thing. (I can't find it anymore in the threads here.) Now they're trying to break down John Knox for us.
Look, Ryan, you must have figured out by now there's better educated adults following you guys. Come on, sharpen it up.


Let the Truth be Known!   09/24/2013
 
“GOD, OFTEN SUFFERED THE WICKED TO TRIUMPH FOR A WHILE, AND EXPOSED HIS CHOSEN CONGREGATION TO MOCKERY, DANGERS, AND APPARENT DESTRUCTION, IN ORDER TO ABASE THEIR SELF-CONFIDENCE, AND INDUCE THEM TO LOOK TO HIM FOR DELIVERANCE AND VICTORY. If they turned unfeignedly to the Eternal, he no more doubted that their present distress would be converted into joy, and followed by success, than he doubted that Israel was finally victorious over the Benjamites, after being twice repulsed with ignominy [shame]. The cause in which they were engaged would, in spite of all opposition, prevail in Scotland. It was the eternal truth of the eternal God which they maintained; it might be oppressed for a time, but would ultimately triumph.” (John Knox – Stirling, Scotland, late 1560 – Scots Worthies)

Ryan's commentary

John Knox preached the words quoted above just before Scotland was almost universally turned away from Rome in the year 1560.
Yea, Roman Catholicism, with all of its unbiblical superstitions, inhumane cruelties, and soul-damning heresies, was nearly shut out of Scotland right after this message was preached. 
 ... when John Knox preached the above excerpt and the sermon it was a part of, the Protestants in Scotland, and the cause of God in their day, were in dire straits.
Many had treacherously betrayed their brethren and their consciences in cowardice!
They had recently retreated from a Protestant stronghold in Edinburgh. The French army was still in Scotland defending the cause of the Romish Church and they were unable to find assistance from Queen Elizabeth in England.
TRULY, THE PROTESTANT PARTY IN SCOTLAND WAS ALMOST COMPLETELY DISPIRITED, AND MANY WERE BELIEVING THAT THE LORD HAD FORSAKEN THEM!
John Knox...was not afraid...after preaching this message in the power of the Spirit of God, the tides began to change!
Yes, through the foolishness of preaching the Lord Jesus Christ went on the move again! Bless His name!
The French and their military were cast out of Scotland, the knowledge of much Scriptural truth was disseminated throughout the nation, the false doctrines of Rome were manifested on every side, and multitudes prepared their hearts to seek the LORD!
May the Lord have mercy on our nation.

The World According to Garp Ryan Ringnald

►   Roman Catholicism, with all of its unbiblical superstitions, inhumane cruelties, and soul-damning heresies, was nearly shut out of Scotland right after this message was preached. 
►   The French and their military were cast out of Scotland, the knowledge of much Scriptural truth was disseminated throughout the nation, the false doctrines of Rome were manifested on every side...


Um. No.

Important historical figures to know:
Mary, Queen of Scots and Queen Elizabeth
Mary of Guise, Queen of James V of Scotland and mother of Mary, Queen of Scots
James V of Scotland died fighting the English. He was nicknamed "King of the Commons."  He would travel around Scotland disguised as a common man, describing himself as the "Gudeman of Ballengeich."
Ironic considering Church of Wells' fear of women: legend has it that before his death, he said "it came wi a lass, it'll gang wi a lass" (meaning "It began with a girl and it will end with a girl") - a reference to Scotland's powerful woman Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert the Bruce, or to Scottish mythology.

Treaty representatives
    France: Jean de Monluc, Bishop of Valence, Charles de la Rochefoucault, Sieur de Randan.
    England: William Cecil and Nicholas Wotton, Dean of Canterbury and York.
    Lords of the Congregation: Archbishop of St Andrews, John Bellenden of Auchnoul, William Maitland. 

Lords of the Congregation
Sir William Kirkcaldy of Grange; Archibald Campbell, 5th Earl of Argyll; James Stewart, Prior of St Andrews; Andrew Leslie, 5th Earl of Rothes; John Graham, 4th Earl of Menteith; Patrick Ruthven, 3rd Lord Ruthven; Lord Ogilvy; David, 2nd Lord Drummond; Patrick, Master of Lindsay; William Douglas, Laird of Lochleven; John Wishart, Laird of Pitarro; William Murray, Laird of Tullibardine; Colin Campbell, Laird of Glenorchy; Alexander Cunningham, Earl of Glencairn; the Earl of Morton; Lord Erskine; Robert, Lord Boyd; Lord Ochiltree; Hugh Campbell, Sheriff of Ayr; Laird of Calder.
Religious advisors: Alexander Gordon, Bishop of Galloway; John Knox; Master Christopher Goodman of England; John Willock. All English-influenced

Lords that withheld allegiance
William Keith, 4th Earl Marischal; the Earl of Athol; Lord Forbes; James Douglas, Laird of Drumlanrig; the Laird of Lochinvar; the Laird of Garlies.

The Treaty of Edinburgh (also known as the Treaty of Leith) was drawn up on July 5, 1560 between the Commissioners of Queen Elizabeth of England with the assent of the Scottish Lords of the Congregation, and the French representatives of King Francis II of France (husband of Mary Queen of Scots) to formally conclude the Siege of Leith and replace the Auld Alliance with France with a new Anglo-Scottish accord, while maintaining the peace between England and France agreed by the Treaty of Cateau-Cambresis
It was agreed between France and England that all their land and naval forces would withdraw from Scotland. Mary and Francis II of France should not use the arms and signs of England and Ireland in their heraldry. Mary and Francis would fulfill the representations made by the Scottish nobility the next day.

The rule of Mary of Guise in Scotland was supported by French troops. Scottish Protestants challenged her rule in the Reformation Crisis.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/KnoxMaryLongBeachCovenantPC.jpg/160px-KnoxMaryLongBeachCovenantPC.jpg
John Knox admonishing Mary Queen of Scots


During the ensuing Siege of Leith, French troops fortified the port and town of Leith against an English and Scottish Protestant force. The English army was invited into Scotland by the Treaty of Berwick, the Lords of the Congregation.
The treaty was concluded on 6 July 1560 just short of a month after the death of Mary of Guise, Queen Regent in Scotland. The fortifications at Leith, Inchkeith and Dunbar Castle were removed and the French garrisons left Scotland. 

This treaty is frequently confused with the acts of the Reformation Parliament of 1560 which met in August, and sought to establish the Protestant church in Scotland. However that treaty was not ratified until 1567 by Mary, Queen of Scots, the reigning monarch.  

Sources: A Source Book of Scottish History, vol. 2,  Donaldson, Nelson (1953), pp 171-172, from Foedera, vol. 15, 593-7.
Foedera, vol. xv, 593-6 (text in full): Calendar State Papers Scotland, vol. i, (1898), 442-444.
HMC Salisbury, Hatfield Manuscripts, vol. i (1883), 245-6.


http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/K/John-Knox-9367203-1-402.jpg



The quote about John Knox's sermon comes from Howie's book, page 148, second paragraph.

http://books.google.com/books?id=aK1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA145&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2oFJm0t7Wr5Z-hT8p98KWJLdMmnA&ci=73%2C98%2C816%2C1424&edge=0
http://books.google.com/books?id=aK1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA146&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2LBiukW49SXeavVppLC4C3_fKaIg&ci=102%2C85%2C832%2C1429&edge=0

http://books.google.com/books?id=aK1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA147&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U3O6ZnDwWIP-BxVJbAn4HbG_p0ITg&ci=64%2C72%2C819%2C1409&edge=0
http://books.google.com/books?id=aK1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA148&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2e6zNWFz0t7o_L1mbdctkK-Is7ZQ&ci=131%2C79%2C801%2C1396&edge=0




 

 

9/25/2013 3:08 pm  #29


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

*searching ...  frantically searching for the "like" button*... Ok who stole the "like" button!?!+

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9/25/2013 4:05 pm  #30


Re: Website Commentary/New CoW Website: Put Off Thy Shoes [combined]

What do you get when you combine professional fact-checkers and the NSA, then introduce them to CoW?

Answer: Us.

Great post. And yeah, they should know by now nothing gets by without passing through the fine comb of history, reason, and Truth.

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