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12/05/2013 7:29 pm  #21


Re: What other spiritual leaders/pastors have to say

Pastor concernedhere, I'd like to hear your perspective on what Sean Morris' thing is about being "born of blood."

Sean Morris: "They are natural men, born “of blood”, and they need to be born into a family of lineage that is 'of God' (1 John 1:13)"

He references a bible quote that doesn't read the same. (And never mind the context either; as usual it doesn't line up.)
        John 1:13 -  "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."


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"Perfect Love" Series, Page 6,7 - http://www.thechurchofwells.com/files/theme/Perfect%20Love%20Series.pdf
 
Interesting idea on where it comes from: http://faith.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=2036#p2036

The "family of lineage" that is 'of God'? Themselves. The Church of Wells couples.
The Church of Wells new babies? Descendants of God. Conceived and born under the "direct sovereignty of God" and free from Original Sin.

"Since your given position has nothing to do with the True Parents, and instead you were born with the blood of false parents who were chased out of heaven, you must deny and transcend yourself in order to get rid of your blood lineage. Basically, without changing the blood lineage, you cannot go to heaven.

We must overcome self-centered attachment to our satanic parents and make the final victory centering on true love. Only through God sending the Messiah can we surrender the satanic lineage."
Source: The Master Plan - Changing The Lineage, The Second Coming 
 

 

12/05/2013 8:59 pm  #22


Re: What other spiritual leaders/pastors have to say

anon wrote:

The "family of lineage" that is 'of God'? Themselves. The Church of Wells couples.
The Church of Wells new babies? Descendants of God. Conceived and born under the "direct sovereignty of God" and free from Original Sin.

What about the children who were born and brought to Wells?

 

 

12/05/2013 9:13 pm  #23


Re: What other spiritual leaders/pastors have to say

anon wrote:

Pastor concernedhere, I'd like to hear your perspective on what Sean Morris' thing is about being "born of blood."

Sean Morris: "They are natural men, born “of blood”, and they need to be born into a family of lineage that is 'of God' (1 John 1:13)"

Yes, right. All other seminarians and theologians are encouraged to explain this, too.

 

12/06/2013 2:48 am  #24


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What about the children who were born and brought to Wells?

Just a hunch that they would still have to go through the conversion. There's a "testmony" of one of the 11 year old girls on their website. They basically go through the same experience the older members go through.... Go read it. It's heartbreaking. 

 

12/06/2013 9:28 am  #25


Re: What other spiritual leaders/pastors have to say

Aegonis3 wrote:

What about the children who were born and brought to Wells?

Just a hunch that they would still have to go through the conversion. There's a "testmony" of one of the 11 year old girls on their website. They basically go through the same experience the older members go through.... Go read it. It's heartbreaking. 

That "testimony" is heartbreaking, not just the parts that apply to the 11 year old girl, but the references to how all the children are "preached" to about how awful they are.

These kids are being set up for horribly dysfunctional adult lives.

 

12/12/2013 3:11 pm  #26


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12/12/2013 3:21 pm  #27


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12/12/2013 3:28 pm  #28


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12/13/2013 6:05 pm  #29


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1/17/2014 8:08 pm  #30


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Is this a move of the Holy Spirit or is this just a bunch of radical Christians taking things too far and potentially giving the church a bad name?

Should the preachers of the church leave the pulpit and step out and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ in the public places, where the people who may never come to church gather and hear?

The film “Go. Stand. Speak” delves into the doctrine of public preaching with experts such as Pastor Albert N. Martin, Dr. George Grant, Paul Washer, Greg Gordon, Pastor John Reuther, Rusty Lee Thomas, David Legge, Ray Comfort, Stuart Migdon, Michael Marcavage, Jeff Rose, Shawn Holes, Sean Morris and other Christian leaders… and uncovers the big question…is this quiet, new move of public preaching something that is simply a trend, or is it again the beginning of a move of God where He is simply doing what He always has done…calling His ministers to go and preach His message of repentance and faith where the people gather in the public, regardless of culture, current trends, or the popularity of the message and method?

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They link Jeremiah Cry Ministries, Paul Washer, etc etc. But not Sean Morris and his "Church of Wells" websites, publications, videos. Huh. I wonder why. Are they reluctant, do they not heartily endorse him, as much it suggests?

What exactly IS the opinion of all these very vocal, very aggressive preachers? Why are they silent?

 

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